Tuesday, March 23, 2010

ARE JEWS WHO ARE ANTI ZIONISTS REALLY JEWS?

by Jim Stephens

march 23, 2010

There is much discussion on sites like Israpundit. But to where is this discussion heading?

it is clear now to a blindman that the US and EU capitalist classes are lined up with Islam, with the Arabs in particular, in practice with Iran although they may fear Jihadist iran a little.

But not enough to stop the alliance forming.

Ask the simple question, why the alliance in the first place.

1. they have oil, that is a factor indeed and Isral has none

2. the more outstanding reason is Islam

My theory is that the capitalist class prepares dictatorship and Islam is a dictatorship in every way. Why would the rulers of the West not form an alliance with a dictatorship?

So in the course of things we have posed a comment int he form of a question or challenge to Israpundit commenters. If there is an answer we will follow here.

[Begin comment on Israpundit]

Yamit

Do you not think that we are reaching a vital and decisive point. But there is no party in existence. I am trying to create a trotskyist party based on principles that I have often talked about.

But in Israel what party is there that can fight for power with all the ruthlessness that such a fight entails.

The following is part of a longer document I am preparing

“So the issue of “settlements” is the sharp end of anti-Semitism in its drive against Jews. It is notable that this anti-Semitic drive is being spearheaded by the Obama Government, and Obama along with the EU are indeed acting in the same way and in the very footsteps of Hitler, the Nazis and of the notorious work by Hitler, Mein Kamph.

There is absolutely intense pressure being exerted now on the Israeli people and on the Israeli leadership by these world anti-Semites, congregated around Obama. Meanwhile anti-Semitic fascists of groups such as the Palestine Telegraph and Palestine Solidarity (ISM) lend a hand to Obama.

Therefore there arises from this a principle which is most dear to our cadres on 4international. If at times we are critical of the Israeli leaders such as Netanyahu, this criticism must be posited in the above. We are critical only in the context that leaders of the Jews are not equipped to stand up to this anti-Semitic pressure.

This raises another matter. There is not now any question of Jews in the abstract. What we have in the world are Jews who are Zionists, and then a layer of traitor Jews who oppose Zionism.

Trotskyism, as Marxist theory and practice, is not a dry and academic subject, a set of rules to follow. It is creative and is a struggle to understand and to change reality.

Israel and the Jewish Homeland as a concept is certainly a place of refuge from anti-Semitism

That is a place of refuge for all Jews. But this comes at a price as does everything in life. There must be no place in Zionist Israel for those Jews who would attack Zionism and attack the very concept of the Jewish Homeland STATE.

The implication of my thinking is that the conflict within Jews has to be intensified to a fierce pitch. Does Ted reject such a suggestion?

This is so far from Rongrand. But I am not Jewish but I am saying it anyway.

The people who will kill you in the end are Jews, those Jews who are opposed to Zionism.

There is a genius in the Jews, showed in the continuing to build that Ted refers to.

that is now what Obama must dismantle.

but that in itself is still not decisive. What is decisive is the jews united behind a revolutionary party and don´t give me this god crap Yamit, I am talking about the real material world that I feel with my 5 senses, and I do not nor will I ever need a sixth.

This can be found on

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=21701&cpage=1#comment-75222