Saturday, April 10, 2010

Indonesian Information Minister quotes Hitler approvingly on Twitter

Tifatul is almost certainly an Islamic supremacist; Mein Kampf is a bestseller today in Turkey and Egypt among adherents of Sharia. But remember -- it's opposing the global jihad and Islamic supremacism, with its denial of free speech, the freedom of conscience, and equality of rights to women and non-Muslims, that is "neo-Nazi"! "Minister quotes Adolf Hitler on Twitter," by Hans David Tampubolon for The Jakarta Post, April 9 (thanks to Twostellas):
DENPASAR: Indonesian communication and information Minister Tifatul Sembiring has sparked another controversy on Twitter by posting a quote taken from Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. In his status update on April 8, Tifatul wrote: "the union between two children, when both of them complete each other, this is magic - Adolf Hitler".
Human rights activist Fadjroel Rachman expressed disappointment in Tifatul's lack of respect for millions of people killed in genocide perpetrated by the Nazis during World War II.
"A criminal towards humanity, a racist executioner of 6 million Jews like Adolf Hitler is the real enemy of democracy," Fadjroel said on his Twitter status update, apparently in response to Tifatul.
Tifatul of the Muslim-based Prosperous Justice Party answered a question from one of his followers on that matter, saying he did not have any affectionate sentiments towards Hitler and that he only loved Allah.
Tifatul's username on Twitter is @tifsembiring, while Fadjroel is @fadjroel.
This is not the first time the two traded arguments on the popular social networking. Previously, Fadjroel criticised Tifatul for his reluctance to greet the country's Christian community on Good Friday and Easter.

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"the union between two children, when both of them complete each other, this is magic - Adolf Hitler".
Looks like Hitler was a pedophile, just like the other mass-murdering megalomaniac muhammad.

"Mein Kampf is a bestseller today in Turkey and Egypt among adherents of Sharia."
But even more "secular" Arabs, that is those who are assigned to the category of "Arab nationalists," have long had a fondness for Hitler, the Nazis, and "Mein Kampf." Why, it Gamal Abdel Nasser's own brother who -- not content to utter phrases in praise of Hitler, in 1939 published the first Arab-language edition of "Mein Kampf." It was a great success, and has remained a great success, in the Arab countries, to this day. One Saudi king used to distribute copies to his foreign guests; they were embarrassed by his choice, though I have not heard of any complaining openly and directly to the Saudis at the time.

And when Gamal Abdel Nasser came to power with the colonel's coup in 1952, Nazi war criminals were already getting a foothold in the Egyptian (as in the Syrian) Security Services.
John Foster Dulles, the American Secretary of State who fell heavily, and stupidly, for the line that Islam is "a bulwark against Communism" -- so it was, but what else was it? -- thought it might be a good idea to have Nazis, so certifiably anti-Bolshevist, to help inject a little dose of Teutonic efficiency into the Egyptian security services, and Nasser was a great fan of the Germans anyway, possibly almost as much as was his brother. He was happy to welcome them and give them high-ranking positions. It was the same in Syria. The list of Nazis who found a refuge, and high positions, in Egypt, Syria, and elsewhere in the Arab world, is long. And many of them converted to Islam, because it seemed so....so familiar. Google a name or two, say "Johannes von Leer."

"Indonesian Information Minister quotes Hitler approvingly on Twitter"
Twit.

"Looks like Hitler was a pedophile, just like the other mass-murdering megalomaniac muhammad."
Kind of pedophile maybe. Adolf preferred childish looking teenagers. He was 38 years old when he in 1927 fell in love with his 19 years old half-niece Geli Raubal. She died in 1931. It was called suicide but Hitler could have killed her.
Her first cousin, William Patrick Hitler, described his impression of Geli when he met her in Obersalzberg:
“Geli looks more like a child than a girl. You couldn't call her pretty exactly, but she had great natural charm. She usually went without a hat and wore very plain clothes, pleated skirts and white blouses. No jewellery except a gold swastika given to her by Uncle Adolf, whom she called Uncle Alf."
Eva Brown was also 19 years old when Adolf met her, but she looked more mature than Geli, so maybee Adolf was not a true peadophile just a bit shy with a childlike sexuality.

"Mein Kampf is a bestseller today in Turkey and Egypt among adherents of Sharia."
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Speaking of Shari'ah law, here's Tifatul Sembiring being coy on the subject of Shari'ah for Indonesia on ABC Radio Australia from just a year ago:
SEN LAM: So does the master plan for Indonesia include the eventual introduction of Sharia law?
TIFATUL SEMBIRING: I think that it's not easy to... to make, to create, Sharia law in Indonesia.
SEN LAM: But is that your ultimate vision?
TIFATUL SEMBIRING: Our vision is how to create the Indonesian people justice, welfare and dignity. It's our vision. So, this our goal. There's no - we don't discuss about the Sharia law here.
SEN LAM: But you speak of justice and you speak of dignity. Why do you think the reputation continues to follow PKS that ultimately, that's your ultimate goal - to have Sharia law in Indonesia? Where do you think that comes from, if that's not a key part of your manifesto?
TIFATUL SEMBIRING: If you're a Muslim, you have a consistency with Islamic teaching. If you're a Christian, you have consistency with Christian teaching.
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Uh, yeah. Tifatul Sembiring's party, Partai Keadilan Sejahtera (Prosperous Justice Party) or PKS, is described as having a "strict Islamic platform".
http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/connectasia/stories/200904/s2539539.htm

From an article on-line by Seán Mac Mathúna:

Gamal Abdel Nasser (1918-1970): The author Goodrick-Clarke says Nasser was "well disposed" towards the Nazis
Most people assumes that when Nazis fled Europe after the war most of them went to Latin America, where the ruling elite's - such as the Peron's in Argentina - had always been sympathetic to Nazi ideology. Many did, but a sizable number of others find work in Egypt, notably under the regime of Gamal Abdel Nasser (1918-1970), an Egyptian army officer and political leader, who was the first president of the republic of Egypt (1956-70). In 1952 he led the coup that deposed King Farouk (another Nazi sympathizer), and later became premier (1954), and president (1956). Hitler had enjoyed quite a following among the nationalist youth of Egypt during the war, after Nassiri Nasser, the brother of Gamal, had published an Arab edition of Mein Kampf in 1939, describing its author as the "strongest man of Europe".

The Nazi-Arab connection started by the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, continued after the war according to Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke writing in "Hitler's Priestess: Savitri Devi, the Hindu-Aryan myth, and Neo-Nazism" (New York University Press, New York, USA, 1998). The Middle East had emerged as a haven for Nazis fleeing Europe in the 1950s, which had its roots in the anti-British and pro-Nazi attitudes of Vichy Syria, Rashid Ali in Iraq, King Farouk of Egypt and the Mufti of Jerusalem.

Thus, Egypt became like Argentina, a safe-haven for Nazi's fleeing justice and retribution from the Allies in Europe. Goodrick-Clarke states that King Farouk had been "impressed" by his garage mechanics recruited from Afrika Korps POWs, and:

"Wondered what he might achieve with officers from elite units of the Gestapo and SS who had fought so hard against the hated British" (p174).
Thus, a number of "Nazi experts" who had escaped the Allied dragnet were hired by the King as military, financial and technical advisers. Although King Farouk was ousted in a military coup in January 1952, the generals of the Egyptian armed forces were themselves "great admirers" of the Nazi's and "availed themselves of further large-scale imports of ex-Nazi expertise". They were to be helped by the former Luftwaffe ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the ex-SS commando Otto Skorzeny (1908-1975) and Eugen Dollman in recruiting "large numbers" of former Nazi fugitives from Argentina for key posts in the new republican regime in Egypt.

It is Skorzeny who is generally credited with setting up the famous escape network to help Nazi war criminals escape Europe after the war, known as the ODESSA network. Thousands of Nazi war criminals benefited from his escape network (helped by the Vatican) and fled to Arab countries and Latin America between 1949 and 1952. The ODESSA network also had close links with the CIA - Skorzeny himself worked with the new West German intelligence service set up under CIA auspices by the former wartime German intelligence chief, Reinhard Gehlen. In fact, it was the leading CIA officer Allen Dulles who invited this SS war criminal to help reorganize the security forces of the new Egyptian Republic.

Apparently, Skorzeny was approached by Mossad while living in Spain, in 1963, and agreed to provide information on Germans working in Egypt - especially rocket scientists. Mossad sent men who were said to have posed as 'NATO officials'. One possible explanation for the Nazi's co-operation may be that the CIA's James Jesus Angleton was responsible for links to other Western agencies, and had good relations with Israel and Mossad. Apparently, the CIA chief Allen Dulles asked Gehlen to inject some "life and expertise" into the Egyptian secret service:
"Some former SS and Gestapo officers had been supplied, with a first batch of about 100 being enlisted by Otto Skorzeny in 1953" (Ian Black and Benny Morris, Israel's Secret Wars, p161)
The first victims may have been Egyptian Jews and Communists, tortured by Gestapo experts. But the Nazi network spread through the Arab world (for instance Alois Brunner in Damascus), and later probably played a part in the pogroms and massacres against the Left in Iraq following the CIA (and Nasser) - backed coup there in 1963.

As early as January 1952, the ODESSA network was in contact with "influential" Egyptian army officers and the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, who had lived in Egypt since the fall of Nazi Germany. According to the Israeli intelligence agency MOSSAD and French intelligence files, numerous former SS officers held key positions in the secret service and political police in Egypt. These included:

* Joachim Däumling, former Gestapo chief in Düsseldorf, and later engaged in SS operations in Croatia. He was employed to set up the Egyptian secret service along the lines of the SS Reichssicherheitshauptamt (Himmler's Reich Security Main Office); he was helped by the former Gestapo chief of Warsaw who organised the security police.
* SS General Oskar Dirlewanger, chief of the infamous SS penal brigade;
* SS Major Eugen Eichberger, battalion-commander in the Dirlewanger brigade;
* SS Colonel Leopold Gleim, chief of the Gestapo department for Jewish affairs in Poland;
* SS Lieutenant Colonel Bernhard Bender, Gestapo official in Poland the USSR, whose knowledge of Yiddish enabled him to penetrate Jewish underground organisations;
* SS General Heinrich Selimann, Gestapo chief in Ulm;
* SS Major Schmalstich, Gestapo liaison officer to French collaborationists and organizer of Jewish transports from Paris to Auschwitz;

* SS Major Seipal, Gestapo official in Paris;
* SS General Alois Moser, a war criminal who was involved in the extermination of the Soviet Jews in the Ukraine;
* SS officer Johannes von Leers (1902-1963), who had been responsible for anti-Semitic campaigns at Goebbels' propaganda ministry;
* SS officer, Alois Brunner, who had held senior position in Adolph Eichmann's "Jewish Department", and is now believed to be living under the protection of the Syrian secret police in Damascus;
* SS Major Walter Bollman, Nazi espionage chief in Britain before the war, and also involved in crimes against humanity and genocide against the Jews of the Ukraine;
* SS official Louis Heiden, who was transferred to the Egyptian press office during the war;
* Franz Bartel, and "old fighter" in the early days of the NSDAP in Germany, and Gestapo officer;
* Walter Birgal, an SS officer from Leipzig;
* Erich Bunz, a former SA major and expert in the "Jewish Question";
* Albert Thielemann, a regional SS chief in Bohemia;
* SS Captain Wilhelm Böckler, a war criminal who had precipitated in the liquidation of the Warsaw Ghetto;
* Wehrmacht General Wilhelm Fahrmbacher, who took over the central planning staff in Cairo . . . .
Added to this were a number of former Nazi officials and sixty military experts, mostly former Waffen-SS men, who assisted in the training of the Egyptian army. Several of them were also linked in 1958 with the then Algerian government-in-exile. At least 200 German and Austrian scientists and other personnel were deployed in the new aircraft and missile centre at Helwan, where new staff physician was Dr. Hanns Eisele, SS Captain and medical torturer in the death camp at Buchenwald. Goodrick-Clarke says that President Gamal Abdel Nasser was "well disposed" towards the Nazis, all the more because they wished to take part in the destruction of Israel. The presence of so many Nazi's in Egypt under the Nasser regime was exposed in the world press in October 1962, and precipitated a crisis in the Israeli government (who had ordered MOSSAD to make try and kill several of the Nazi's), and embarrassment in West Germany, over the exposure of postwar Nazi collaboration with the Nasser regime.

Not surprisingly, the few remaining Egyptian Jews fled. From a population of 75,000 Jews in 1948, by 1974 only 350 remained. In 1956, 4000 Jews were expelled, after being forced to renounce all property rights and financial claims. In 1957, all Egyptian Jews not in "continuous residence" since 1900 were deprived of citizenship. In 1960, many synagogues were closed down, along with Jewish orphanages, schools, hospitals and old peoples homes; and in 1967, all Jews in official positions were dismissed, with many more tortured and expelled, according to Martin Gilbert, author of The Routledge Atlas of Jewish History (Routledge, London, 1995).


Hugh, thank you for your very enlightening post.
While I was familiar with the Nazi link to the Mufti of Jerusalem, and the general disturbing admiration of Hitler one finds to this day in so much of the Muslim world, I was completely unaware of the post-WWII welcoming of Nazis to Egypt.

Nazis and Jihadis - a marriage made in hell.

Re Johann Von Leers, who so admired what the Muslims had done to the Jews, by the institution of dhimmitude, within dar al Islam, that after the war, safely ensconced in the Islamosphere, he converted to Islam -
those who feel like wading through a spew of scholarly venom (don protective gear before attempting) will find an article by him, in full, reproduced in Andrew Bostom's encyclopedic anthology, "The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism".
To wit - "Judaism and Islam As Opposites", pp. 619 - 625.
The article was originally published in 1942, 'Judentum und Islam als Gegensatz', Die Judenfrage in Politik, Recht und Wirtschaft 6, no. 24, December 1942, 275-78. It was translated by Stephen Rendall.
On p. 686 of 'Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism' Bostom provides a potted biography of Von Leers.

The other place for the lay reader to get an idea of just how many Nazis there were swanning around the Middle East immediately after World War II - many of them joyously sooling on the Arab Muslims to attack Jews, whether in Israel or anywhere else, and in the process, getting driven nuts by Arab Muslim military incompetence - is John Roy Carlson's 'Cairo to Damascus' (1951).

Carlson (a pen-name; he was the son of Armenian refugee immigrants to the USA), in order to do the research for the book, posed as a Nazi-admiring Muslim-admiring American, and in that guise moved among jihadis in Egypt, Jordan and Syria; where he met, among those jihadis, Nazis who were actively trying to contribute to the jihad against the newborn Jewish state of Israel.